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For 75 years, UFOs have been dismissed by the US government

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as the domain of kooks and conspiracy theorists,

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but not anymore.

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The US Navy made a shocking admission today.

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The US military says UFOs, also called UAPs

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for unidentified aerial phenomena, are real.

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Oh my gosh, dude.

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In summer 2021, US intelligence prepared a report for Congress

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detailing what's known about UAPs.

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He just rapidly accelerates beyond anything that I've ever seen.

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This thing just basically made you feel smaller.

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The question on everyone's mind, what are these things?

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Former Pentagon officials Lou Elizondo and Chris Mellon

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revealed the secret history of UAPs in America.

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That is real, whatever that is.

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US airspace is being violated by vehicles of unknown origin

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with advanced capabilities, performing in a way that defies logic.

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Now, the comprehensive history of what's known.

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What are their shapes, sizes, capabilities?

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It was very bouncy, almost like a super ball.

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Very short, very succinct, very sharp movements.

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Fastest thing I've ever seen.

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That thing is hauling fast.

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That's exactly my point.

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It's a little less than two-thirds the speed of so.

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Where do they appear?

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All of the nuclear facilities had UFO incidents.

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Before I knew it, I had these objects raining out of the sky.

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Choo, choo, choo, choo, choo.

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It was raining UFOs.

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How far back in history do they go?

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This thing just wafted over the wing or right next to it.

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I mean, was it within inches?

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And are they dangerous?

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It seemed to be aware.

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And there's a bit of fear because now you're out there dealing with something

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that you have no idea what it is.

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If it's ours, that's great.

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If it's not, we've got an awful lot to worry about.

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What's worst case scenario?

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I would tell you, I would tell you already,

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it's too late because it's here.

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So we have a choice.

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We can live with our heads buried in the sand and hope it goes away.

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Or we can take our head out of the sand and try to figure out how it works.

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But it doesn't really care what we think in this room because it's here.

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Lou Elizondo spent two decades serving as a counterintelligence officer

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for the Department of Defense.

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Lou is in many ways an enigma.

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Here was a guy who had spent decades really in the intelligence community.

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Elizondo had little interest in UAPs until 2009.

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He was asked to take over the Pentagon's $22 million advanced aerospace threat identification program.

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Known as ATIP, the unit was tasked with investigating UAPs.

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It was established by a small group of senators including former astronaut John Glenn,

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World War II veterans Daniel Inouye and Ted Stevens,

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and former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

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Is this three reports? Was this five reports?

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We were made aware of many, many, many, many incidents.

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It remains a sensitive number.

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Those numbers are increasing on a regular routine basis.

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Some of these incidents are very, very recent and very compelling.

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In 2017, this video was leaked to the press.

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Now you're out there dealing with something that you have no idea what it is.

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Recorded in 2004, it shows a Tic Tac shaped UAP.

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Elizondo interviewed several Navy eye witnesses for a detailed account.

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One of those witnesses was a U.S. Navy pilot who requested her identity remain hidden since she was still active duty.

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Why don't we just start from the beginning?

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We were operating off the coast of California in a designated military working area

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with our carrier strike group.

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We had launched to perform a practice fight against each other to rehearse our maneuvers.

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On November 14th, 2004, this pilot took off from the deck of the USS Nimitz

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as the wingman to a second jet flown by her squadron commander.

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Approximately 100 miles southwest of San Diego in the Pacific Ocean,

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she soon found herself in uncharted waters.

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We were interrupted by a ship-borne controller.

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Their tone was urgent and their requests were unusual.

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This is not an exercise. This is a real-world intercept.

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Didn't have much experience.

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I thought maybe it's a drug runner or something coming up the coast of Mexico.

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And I thought, wow, that would be cool.

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With no information about their target, the two jets arrive at the designated location and are confused.

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My heart sank. There was something in the water.

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There was a churning.

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And I went from being sort of giddy excited to thinking, oh my god, now we're on-scene commanders of a wreck.

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Somebody's crashed and, you know, this aircraft is sinking.

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And this is when you notice an object.

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We were all clamoring to get on the radio.

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Do you see in the water? What the f*** is that?

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A UAP is hovering over the churning water.

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What does it look like?

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No windows, no flight surfaces.

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So no wings at all? No wings, no...

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Smooth, white, no intakes, no smoke trail.

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It looked like a giant tic-tac.

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Give me a rough size.

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Large enough to scare the enemy.

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High G, rapid velocity, rapid acceleration.

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So you're wondering, you know, how can I possibly fight this?

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We have no ordinance on board, you know, unless one of us rammed this thing,

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which the way it was maneuvering would have been impossible.

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The wingman watched from above as her commanding officer,

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US Navy commander David Fraver flew directly at the UAP.

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Elizondo tracked down the retired pilot and former leader of the Blackaces Squadron.

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He now works in the private sector as an aeronautics consultant.

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Commander Fraver is a very rare breed.

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He's one of the few folks that actually run towards danger, not away from it.

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He had that fighter instinct, so it wasn't surprising his actions on that day.

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I really wanted to see what it was.

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I mean, if I could have joined right up on it and, you know, got like Blue Angel close,

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then I probably would have done that.

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This object seemed to recognize that we were there

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and went from this very low altitude to maneuvering in an erratic, very rapid manner.

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According to this leaked summary of the incident, contact was made here,

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30 miles off the coast and 70 miles south of the US-Mexico border.

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This thing would go instantaneous from one way to another,

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similar to if you threw a ping-pong ball against a wall.

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And all of a sudden it goes, whoop, and it kind of turns, and now it's mirroring us,

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and it starts coming up.

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We're like, okay, now it knows we're here.

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It seemed to be aware, and it seems to recognize him.

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It goes from basically just almost a hover into a pretty aggressive climb up to our altitudes,

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and there's a bit of fear because now you're out there dealing with something

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that you have no idea what it is.

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It's actually reacting to what we're doing.

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So, the hair on the back of my neck is standing up.

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I'm thinking I'm going to be watching a disaster here.

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I'm kind of pulling nose to where he's going to be, and he's coming up.

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He just rapidly accelerates beyond anything that I've ever seen.

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He crosses my nose, and it's gone.

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And I'm like, whoa.

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The tic-tac vanished.

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According to Fravor, the tic-tac accelerated from a standing position

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and flew approximately 60 miles in under a minute,

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a whopping 3,700 miles an hour.

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You got something that can accelerate and disappear and then show up 60 miles away.

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Kind of in awe a little bit because you go, whoa, we don't have that.

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You know, and I'm talking, we're flying one of the premier airplanes on the planet.

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What was this?

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There was a capability out there.

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Don't know where it's from.

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Not saying it's from outer space,

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but not saying it's from here either.

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Back on the Nimitz, the pilots told the rest of the squadron what just happened.

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The next crew is getting ready, so we're talking to them about this,

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and they're like, you got to be kidding.

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They took us seriously, and the whizzo, the guy in the back seat, said,

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I'm going to go find it.

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The next jet to launch had a targeting pod with an infrared sensor and camera.

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It jammed the radar, but he got a lock on it, and that's the video that you see.

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Lou Elizondo left the Pentagon's secret UAP program in 2017,

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believing the reports of UAPs and their seemingly advanced technology

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represented a potential threat to national security that was not being taken seriously.

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He just rapidly accelerates beyond anything that I've ever seen.

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I just cross my nose, and it's gone.

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And I'm like, whoa.

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Yet despite Elizondo's frustration of the lack of official action,

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there were others in the U.S. defense and intelligence apparatus who shared his concerns.

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What is really motivating me right now is the Nimitz case.

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We had multiple naval aviators in what they saw in broad daylight

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over an extended period of time was corroborated by

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the most sophisticated sensor systems, air defense systems on Earth.

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Chris Mellon had been the deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence.

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He began investigating UAPs with Elizondo after the two left government.

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Any reasonable person would have to conclude defies present understanding

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of what aircraft are capable of doing.

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It was clearly something beyond the pale.

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Chris Mellon is an interesting character.

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He's never been very public.

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He never demanded him to work behind the curtain.

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Back when I was a junior person in the Department of Defense,

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we all knew who Christopher Mellon was.

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This was a man who had all the secrets.

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Mellon and Elizondo sought additional eyewitnesses to the Nimitz incident,

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looking to determine what the object could be.

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One was Kevin Day, the chief radar specialist on the USS Princeton in 2004.

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Kevin Day was a senior enlisted guy in the Navy,

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and you do not get the rank he got to unless you're very, very good.

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We were off the coast of San Diego, Nimitz Strike Group,

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getting ready to go on deployment.

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The Princeton was part of the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group

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on a training mission southwest of San Diego.

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It was Kevin Day who dispatched Commander Fravor and his wingman to intercept the tic-tac.

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It didn't fly like an aircraft.

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It's about 40 feet long. It's white.

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It has no wings. It has no rotors. It has no control surfaces.

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It's literally think of a white tic-tac.

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While their testimony and the Nimitz video only show a single tic-tac,

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Kevin Day told Elizondo that actually there were many.

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The Princeton's radar tracked the unidentified objects

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dropping down from the upper atmosphere,

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and then flying south in what appeared to be an organized formation

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at an altitude of 28,000 feet.

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The relative position didn't change from each other.

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They were going real slow, 28,000 feet at 100 knots,

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which is extremely weird.

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Usually things that high don't travel that slowly,

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because they'll fall out of the sky.

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According to Kevin Day, an entire fleet of UAPs was flying unimpeded

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through the Navy's exercise warning area off the West Coast.

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And before I knew it, I had these objects raining out of the sky.

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Choo-choo-choo-choo-choo. It was raining UFOs.

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The Princeton was equipped with the military's most sophisticated radar system.

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Known as the Aegis Spy 1, it provided a 3D,

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360-degree view of the entire battle space.

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And eliminated the fact that they could have been

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friendly aircraft of some kind, or enemy aircraft of some kind.

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Nothing to really fit.

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There's no recognized signature that you're picking up.

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It's becoming evident that these things are really UFOs.

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They are unidentified flying objects.

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I didn't have a better word for it.

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After dispatching favor and wingman,

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Day says he watched as the Tic Tac escape the fighter jets,

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climbing with an extraordinary burst of acceleration.

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Right back up to 28,000 feet.

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It was the most humbling experience of my life.

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Later on shore, Day says he spoke with Fravor about the Tic Tac incident.

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I was asking him, what the hell, man? What happened?

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He said, Mako, I gotta tell you, that thing kicked my ass.

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You know, I was looking around. I was like, you know, all the years,

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all the money, all the expertise, and all the talent,

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everyone around me in this whole strike group.

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And there's nothing we can do.

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If these things are hostile, then we're screwed.

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Kevin Day's sighting of multiple objects flying in formation

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at incredible speeds raises more questions about the incident

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and the true origin of these craft.

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Answers the US government doesn't seem to have or isn't admitting.

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And Day wasn't the only service member from the US

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that's Princeton willing to go on the record

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with critical information about the 2004 Nimitz incident.

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Chris Mellon traveled to Florida to speak to Gary Voorhees,

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a technician aboard the ship who provided new clues

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about the object's strange behavior.

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What was the first indication something unusual was occurring?

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The first indication I heard.

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Voorhees' story began four days before the pilots intercepted the UAP.

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The spy guys came out and they were like, oh, we got clutter.

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The spy guys in terms of the radar system guys?

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Yeah, the guys that specifically work on just the spy 1 Bravo radar

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that came down and asked me to reset all the computer systems.

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The Princeton had already picked up three strange objects.

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Their eages spy 1 radar couldn't identify.

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Thinking that the system was malfunctioning,

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the technicians rebooted the computers.

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Brought it all back up and lo and behold, they're there still.

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And then we started getting confirmation from the other ships

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that they were seeing it too.

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What were you seeing at that point?

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We were just seeing three tracks.

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Three tracks?

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Were they hovering?

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Sometimes they were only going a couple of hundred knots.

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Sometimes they seemed stationary.

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Sometimes they moved relatively fast.

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The way that they kind of went around us,

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it was almost like they were just monitoring.

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We tracked it going from 30,000 feet down to sea level,

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like within no time at all.

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And Sonar said they got a hit.

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Voorhees claims the ship's Sonar operators

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were doing something else extraordinary.

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The object plunged into the ocean

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and then accelerated to a speed twice as fast

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as the Navy's fastest attack submarine.

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According to one of the Sonar guys,

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they were going 70-plus knots under the water.

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The USS Louisville, a 6,000-ton nuclear-powered submarine,

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was patrolling just below the surface.

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Voorhees says he spoke with the sub-Sonar team

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to try to understand what was happening.

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You heard firsthand from the Sonar technicians

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that they got a hit.

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According to Voorhees' incredible testimony,

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the object was able to fly through the air

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at a high rate of speed, dive into the ocean,

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and then move through the water at incredible velocity.

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That's not a capability possessed by any known craft

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and helps explain the government's admitted inability

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to identify the object.

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This is an evolving story.

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I think we realize now that the USS Nimitz incident

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may be actually far more comprehensive

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than any one of us initially thought.

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Omar Lara was an enlisted sailor

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who worked on the Nimitz's aviation fuel systems.

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Jets would come in, park.

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We'd fuel them up.

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They'll disembark.

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Several days after the infamous Tic Tac video was taken,

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Lara says he was on the ship's deck,

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responding to what turned out to be a false alarm

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of a man overboard.

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All the jets had left,

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except for the personnel who take care of maintenance

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and the work centers onboard the aircraft carrier.

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And a sailor had a fallen overboard.

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And at that time, a man overboard was called

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and everyone needs to report in person.

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So we ended up on the fan tail,

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starboard side, looking towards out to the vast oceans,

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the beautiful panoramic view.

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And out of nowhere, this object drops out from the sky.

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And at crevice speed, it just plants itself

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right above the ocean.

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The object itself was this white, luminescent object.

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This thing did not stop or slow down.

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Up until maybe 100 feet above the waterline,

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and it stopped on a dime.

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Then it zipped off to our right

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at incredible speed with no sonic boom.

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You had to literally move your torso.

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A slight turn to your right to follow it.

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The speed and the maneuverability of this object

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is nothing that I've ever seen

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in my 10 years in the United States Navy.

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Mr. Laura's testimony is very important

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because Mr. Laura is reporting the same type of maneuvering

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that was described by the pilots.

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You don't have wings,

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and you don't have any obvious means of propulsion.

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I do not believe that what I saw was made on this planet.

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If it wasn't made by us,

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then you can count us off as the number one superpower.

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This thing just basically made you feel smaller.

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It's a paradigm changer.

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Laura's citing is additional confirmation

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of the object's ability to defy the laws of physics.

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And based on the recent government report,

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makes it impossible to rule out the possibility

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that these objects are alien in origin.

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And it's not the only one.

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In a stunning new report,

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the United States government has revealed

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that the vast majority of 144 UAP sightings

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by members of the U.S. military cannot be explained.

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Then what are they?

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Lou Elizondo and Chris Mellon investigated

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another of these encounters, which like the Nimitz,

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was captured on video and radar.

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In 2015, Navy pilot Ryan Graves

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was flying training missions off the east coast

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of the United States when he saw a UAP.

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To help put Graves at ease, Elizondo brought along

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David Fraver, the veteran Navy pilot

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who'd seen his own UAP in 2004.

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Two V-1, huh?

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Sound of fair fight?

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Lieutenant Graves spent a decade training Navy pilots

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and flying bombing missions,

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and as a combat section lead,

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he twice deployed to the Middle East

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and holds a degree in aerospace engineering.

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Let's start from the beginning.

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We'll simply put, I don't really know where the beginning is.

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In summer of 2014, Lieutenant Graves was based

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out of Naval Air Station Oceana in Virginia Beach.

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Lieutenant Graves says his squadron,

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the Red Rippers, were flying up and down the eastern seaboard

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when they started to pick up mysterious radar tracks.

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We didn't really think a lot of them other than the fact

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that maybe they were just a part of the radar itself,

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not necessarily an actual physical object.

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Is there any difference between the aircraft you were flying

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in 2015 versus what he was flying in 2004 and E?

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We had upgraded electronics, radar systems.

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It's a generational difference. It's a big deal.

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Is it huge? Okay.

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Huge increase in capability.

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The pilots wondered if their new radar system was malfunctioning

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until they saw one of the unidentified objects up close.

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Walking through that moment, were you there

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or was it one of your colleagues?

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It was one of my colleagues,

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so I didn't hear about until they landed.

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Did he give you size, color, texture?

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It was basically a cube inside of sphere

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where the points of the cube were touching outside of the sphere.

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We've got now two different things.

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You guys got cubes with balls.

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Around the West Coast, we got flying tic-tacs.

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Lieutenant Graves says the cube wasn't the only bizarre shaped object in the sky.

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They began seeing numerous smaller, round objects

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that refracted light in a strange way.

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It's not like I'm seeing a bright physical object.

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I'm literally just seeing a flash shine out there.

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Wherever we were, they were there.

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So that could mean two things.

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That could mean they were already there

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or they were following the strike group.

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By 2015, Lieutenant Graves claims his pilots were encountering

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bizarre craft almost every time they flew.

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You know, it's one thing if one person sees one of these objects,

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they're like, okay, that's crazy.

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When you go out there every day and you see them

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and your brothers and sisters and other squadrons are seeing them,

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it's like, okay, well, this is probably some type of maybe drone thing

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or something that they're testing out.

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It wasn't until someone actually saw one go in between two aircraft

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at a close range, probably within 150 feet,

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that it was starting to get worrisome.

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Lieutenant Graves says when one of the objects nearly caused

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a terrifying mid-air collision,

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senior pilots and his squadron decided to act.

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At this point, we're like, something needs to be done.

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We submit a safety report to the Navy Safety Center.

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They've been seeing these things for two months.

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Multiple people have seen them, multiple people have tracked them.

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You get one that splits the section

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enough to send out your mishap report to the Safety Center.

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Did anyone contact you and say what is going on?

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No.

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No investigation or nothing?

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No.

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Throughout history, the U.S. government has been hesitant

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to investigate sightings like these,

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but in recent years has begun taking the incidents more seriously.

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We have a video I'd like you to see.

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Without telling you anything about it,

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I'm going to be curious your thoughts

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and you can tell me what you see.

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These three UAP videos were released by the Pentagon

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and at the time of Elizondo's interview with Graves,

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the one on the left had been identified as the 2004 Tic Tac incident.

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The source of the other two had remained a mystery.

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This video has come to be known as Go Fast

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and shows an object speeding just above the water.

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The other is known as Gimbal.

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The sensor is on a Gimbal underneath the aircraft

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and it can rotate to maintain a track.

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Never forget those voices.

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This was a breakthrough in Elizondo's investigation.

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The first time, a pilot confirmed that the two unidentified videos,

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Gimbal and Go Fast, were taken by Navy jets from the Theodore Roosevelt.

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We're getting ready for a deployment.

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So we do work-ups along the eastern seaboard

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and these objects kind of came with us.

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Lieutenant Graves says both videos were filmed within weeks of each other

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over the Atlantic off Jacksonville, Florida.

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And as Lieutenant Graves' squadron was preparing to deploy to the Middle East,

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they were seeing so many mysterious objects,

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they started sharing the videos when they got back on ship.

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They were also very excited about what happened

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and then they were heading down to watch the full video in its entirety.

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There's parts of this video that we can talk about that aren't here.

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Let's walk through that.

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So this object was infinitely larger than the one you're used to seeing.

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Lieutenant Graves says the Gimbal video was just part of a longer,

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higher resolution video he was shown.

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It included several smaller craft, the kind he was more familiar with.

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They were essentially flying themselves into formation.

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And then behind those was the object that you see here

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and not the world's greatest drawer, but as you can see here,

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it almost looks like a gyroscope, right?

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The way it moves, the points coming out at the top and the bottom

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would appear to be a disc or at least a central mass on the object.

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So these objects were seeing one direction.

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The five at some point basically just turned themselves around

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with some type of radius of turn as a unit

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and started flying in that direction.

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At this time, it's pretty much where you see this video

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where these are now out of the picture

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and it's just this guy that's stationary.

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Is that why they refer to them as there's a whole fleet of them?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So there wasn't a whole fleet of these, there was just all these little guys.

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And then there's the one object which we had never seen before,

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which was significantly larger.

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Lieutenant Graves says the way the larger ship suddenly rotates at 90 degrees

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is unlike anything he had ever seen.

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It's just basic airplane physics.

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When your wings are underneath you, you're flying along,

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you have 100% of your lift.

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And if you turn yourself all the way like this, kind of night-blading,

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you have none of the lift that your wings would provide you.

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So the fact that he would just get himself on his wingtip with no turn

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by saying at exact same point isn't how aircraft work.

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What's fascinating and interesting about these objects

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is that they're up there when we take off,

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they're doing their thing for our hour, hour and a half, maybe two hour flight.

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And then we land and my buddy that takes off an hour later,

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he's seen the same things.

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This is important.

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Now we're looking at something that can stay stationary over a geographic point

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and 120 knots of wind.

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Can rotate around and then can accelerate above supersonic.

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As a top gun guy, have you seen something like that before?

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No, no, I'm pretty baffled right now.

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In the 2004 Nimitz incident, navy pilots would head to head with a tic-tac shaped object.

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Ten years later, the Roosevelt pilots say they encounter three different craft.

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A cube inside a sphere, a larger disc shaped UFO and a smaller round object captured here.

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When the three videos came out, there was this shock by the world community that,

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oh my gosh, these are real videos.

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The recent congressional UAP report says the UAPs they studied were not secret government aircraft,

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leaving two possibilities.

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Foreign aircraft, perhaps Chinese or Russian, or something truly unexplained and possibly alien.

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Elizondo met with two leading aviation experts to analyze the videos in an effort to answer the big question.

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What are UAPs?

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What I'd like to do is go through these videos very carefully and get your thoughts on these.

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Retired Lieutenant Colonel Chris Cook is a top gun pilot who spent a career flying the military's most sophisticated fighter jets.

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Ross Amer flew commercial aircraft for more than four decades and works as a consultant for the National Transportation Safety Board.

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It's the first time the three men have spoken.

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So the first video I'm going to show you this afternoon was taken into 2004 timeframe.

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The first video shows the tic-tac shaped object seen by the Nimitz pilots captured by an F-18's infrared camera.

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The altitude is 20,000 feet. We're in the TV mode now, so it's visual.

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The display's indicators are familiar to the pilots, but the image on the screen is confusing.

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It doesn't appear to have any characteristics of any normal aircraft that I've witnessed flying.

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The experts wonder how the craft could stay airborne without wings.

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No flight control surfaces, I don't see that.

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It does not look like an aircraft to me.

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But in these images of a fighter jet also shot with an infrared camera, the heat from the engine is clearly visible.

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Everything we know about propulsion systems is they create an intense amount of heat.

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So if it was a conventional type aircraft, you would most definitely see some type of an IR signature plume behind the airplane.

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If you want to defy Earth's gravitational force, the way to do it is with either a propeller to mechanically displace air, jet engine to compress air and to create an equal and opposite reaction, or a chemical explosion like a missile or a rocket.

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Each one of those has a tall tail signature.

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Yet here are things that are able to seemingly effortlessly defy Earth's gravitational force and maneuver in ways that are complete contrary to anything that we would presume should be able to fly.

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So let's let the film keep rolling.

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The object the Navy pilot is tracking suddenly seems to get bigger.

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So what just happened there? What's he doing? He's changing the zoom.

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Then appears to accelerate rapidly, disappearing off screen.

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That's a significant rate of acceleration in a horizontal plane off to the left. That's very fast.

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Finally, the object appears to perform a similar maneuver to what the pilots witnessed.

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We're all amazed at how fast this thing just took off and disappeared.

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Instantaneous acceleration at this rate would produce a force of gravity or G-force. So extreme it would crush a human being.

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I have no idea what that thing is and it's not acting like a aircraft. It's not acting like anything I've ever seen.

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If there are vehicles out there, aircraft that are doing things aerodynamically that we've never even thought of, then I think we potentially could have real trouble down the road.

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The ability to fly without wings or an engine is one of five distinct characteristics Elizondo's Pentagon team discovered.

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He calls them the observables and considers them the program's breakthrough discovery.

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These capabilities are currently beyond the scope of any known craft and those that possess them require a new explanation.

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Anti-gravity, the ability to fly without apparent means of propulsion or lift.

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Instantaneous acceleration, the ability to reach a high rate of speed in a short amount of time.

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Hypersonic velocity, speeds over 3700 miles per hour, five times the speed of sound.

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Low observability, the capacity to cloak or conceal.

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Trans-medium travel, the ability to move through space, air and water.

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Any one of these mind you would be an absolute strategic game changer for any foreign adversary to have.

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And yet, here we have things doing all five.

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A single object with these abilities would be troubling enough, but the video of more unexplained objects taken from the Roosevelt in 2015 raises even more questions about why the government can't identify them.

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Elizondo wants their expert opinion.

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The Go Fast video is 33 seconds long and shows a round craft that appears to be streaking across the ocean surface.

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The video is taken by the Go Fast video.

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That thing is hauling fast.

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It's a little less than two-thirds of speed of sound.

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But how is the craft able to fly so fast? The infrared sensor shows the object is cold.

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If this were some type of aircraft with a conventional propulsion system, we would definitely see some type of heat signature.

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Everything we know about propulsion systems is they create an intense amount of heat.

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There is no known aircraft that can stay aloft for long without a source of lift and propulsion.

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The gimbal video is even more baffling.

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It shows a craft mid-air that rotates into a near perpendicular position to the ground.

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The strange way the object turns in mid-air confuses both experts.

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It is definitely rotating. It appears to be, or changing angle of bank.

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And it appears to have stopped moving quickly across the horizon.

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And yet it doesn't lose any altitude. It doesn't seem to be dropping.

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Sadly, with all the experience that you think we have, I can't figure it out.

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Well, I certainly can't Chris. No, I know it is.

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I've always kind of been skeptical about aliens and UFOs and things like that.

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But I've never seen anything remotely like what I saw today.

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I'm a lot more convinced now that these vehicles do exist.

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Llewellesando has become accustomed to unanswered questions.

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And he's certainly not the first.

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Since the mid-20th century, the U.S. government has sought to unlock the confounding mystery of unknown objects in the skies overhead.

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A recent report detailing the results of an investigation into 144 UAP incidents

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suggests the government is taking sightings of these objects seriously and trying to determine their origin.

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But it's not the first time the government has claimed to do so.

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The Air Force launched Project Blue Book in 1952 when a rash of UFO sightings put the nation on edge.

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This is David Brinkley in the radar room at Washington National Airport.

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On these radar screens last Saturday, they saw something strange and unusual.

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And at the moment, unexplainable. It was not an airplane. It was not a cloud.

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Nobody knows what it was.

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For the next 17 years, the Air Force studied over 12,000 UFO sightings

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and found 701 cases that couldn't be explained.

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Like the RISA report, the government could not conclusively identify many of the objects seen by military eyewitnesses,

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raising questions about what they might be.

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But rather than continue to study them, they officially shut down Project Blue Book in 1969.

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I talked to people in the Pentagon who had relayed that they were concerned it was going to make the Defense Intelligence Agency look bad.

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They were more concerned about the optics of it.

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Several decades later, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid insisted it was necessary for the government to examine a new rash of sightings

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and determine what the objects are and where they're from.

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Harry Reid was convinced by doing his own research that this was something, as an elected official, he should probably care about.

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And he clearly convinced some of his colleagues in the Senate that it was important enough to look into.

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And that's how this Pentagon program got started in the first place.

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Senator Reid was the driving force behind the creation of the Pentagon's secret UFO unit, ATIP.

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Reid retired from the Senate in 2017 but is still working behind the scenes to push the U.S. government to study what he believes is a clear and present danger to national security.

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There's a lot of very profound, very deep issues that individuals like Harry Reid is acutely aware of that he's been deeply involved with.

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And for him to devote time to this issue in the twilight of his career, you know, it's fascinating.

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We've been in a quandary. We have these very, very proficient, best-trained pilots in the world.

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And they see these strange occurrences.

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And in the past, they've been afraid to say anything to anyone for fear they would be looked at as a little strange, a little weird.

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So for decades, nothing has been done about these instances.

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But I never hid from it. I acknowledged it. I thought it was an important thing for our country.

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And I think people who will run from this are absolutely wrong.

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Senator Reid secured funding for the Pentagon's secret UFO program in part because he and others had come to believe America's adversaries were gaining the advantage.

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Since I got interested in this, has been KGB Putin.

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He was head of the KGB. And I guarantee you that he's got a lot of information on this.

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And I would bet that Russia is ahead of us in looking into this scientifically.

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We're in an environment right now where there's sort of unprecedented distrust of our government.

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Do you have any reason to believe that there is a government cover-up of the UFOs that behind the scenes the government actually really does know the answers and has?

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I think the government doesn't know the answers.

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But over the decades, rather than try to find the answers, they've tried to cover up what the answers might be.

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Like Project Blue Book, ATIP officially shut down in 2012, once again leaving unanswered questions about the origin of these objects.

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Facing criticism, the government wasn't taking the problem seriously.

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In 2020, the Pentagon restarted the program as the unidentified aerial phenomenon task force.

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Its mission was to detect, analyze and catalog sightings of strange objects in the sky that could pose a threat to national security.

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We've got a problem internally. We've got blinders on. And if we've got blinders on, baby, you're going to get blindsided.

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One of the most troubling threats to national security appears to be a long-running connection between sightings and nuclear weapons and nuclear-powered machinery.

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It's a connection Elizondo has been studying for years.

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We seem to see these things around U.S. nuclear equities. There definitely seem to be some sort of correlation.

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And if I see something that potentially has the ability to either threaten or disable our strategic nuclear capability, I have to consider that a threat.

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The progress that's been made in the last year is incredible, but there are still big secrets being kept.

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If that can be leaked out or released, even if it's a dribble, it changes everything.

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Investigative journalist George Knapp has uncovered documents that may reveal a connection between UFO sightings and America's atomic arsenal.

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Over the years, Knapp has filed freedom of information requests with the Department of Defense and Energy.

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This is from 1985.

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And interviewed scores of government eyewitnesses.

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These go way back.

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And these are reports of reported incidents.

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UFO incidents. This is from way back in 1948. That's over Los Alamos. Another unknown object in New Mexico.

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Interesting.

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That's during the Manhattan Project.

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During the 1950s, the Air Force detonated more than 100 atomic bombs at above-ground tests in the Nevada desert.

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I had more than a dozen people who had worked out there at the test site during the height of the above-ground testing period who said UFOs were commonplace.

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There were employees assigned to monitor UFO activity in connection with the tests.

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Sometimes they'd appear before the tests. Oftentimes they'd appear after it.

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And once in a while they would appear during these tests.

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All of the nuclear facilities, Los Alamos, Livermore, Sandia, Savannah River, all had UFO incidents.

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This says, if it's firmly indicated there is no domestic explanation, the objects are a threat and warrant more active efforts at identification and interception.

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Doesn't that sound familiar?

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All copies were supposed to be destroyed.

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In 1966, military personnel say a UFO appeared over Minot Air Force Base.

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They claim one of Minot's nuclear missiles allegedly activated as a UFO hovered above, then deactivated when it disappeared.

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A year later, a similar incident allegedly happened at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana.

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Military personnel there say a glowing red, oval-shaped object hovered over its missile silos, and all ten of the base's nuclear missiles were disabled.

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They don't know what's causing it. They don't know how to stop it. That puts it all on the line. That tells you how serious this matter is.

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Over the next two decades, multiple U.S. nuclear launch sites will report alarming UFO incidents. But no one can explain why.

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These weapons systems had been shut off-line, so they couldn't be fired.

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If these were Russian aircraft, if these were someone else's aircraft, the idea that something could possess a technology that could fly within proximity and take these systems off-line, that's a terrifying capability.

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For decades, there have been multiple credible sightings of UAP's near-nuclear weapons facilities both in the United States and abroad.

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Can we go back one more slide to the nuclear power plant?

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Sure.

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So this is the nuclear power plant, and this facility was there while you were there?

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Oh yes, it was there before I was there.

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One of the most notorious UAP encounters in history involving a nuclear base took place in 1980.

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Lieutenant Colonel Charles Holt was second in command of America's largest air base in Europe, RAF Bentwaters, 100 miles northeast of London.

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Cold war tensions were high, and the base was a pivotal part of NATO's defenses.

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Bentwaters housed 25 four-to-five bunkers filled with lightweight but highly powerful nuclear bombs, always at the ready to repel a Soviet invasion of the NATO bloc.

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Holt's top priority was protecting the base from terrorists and communists, not UAP's.

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Tell me what you experienced back in 1980.

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We were having our Christmas party. We just finished main meal and were getting ready for dessert.

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When the on-duty police lieutenant came in, white as a sheet, and he said, we saw lights in the forest.

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There was something out there. We don't know what it was, so we came to get you.

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Oh, my.

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The face commander said, go put this thing to rest.

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Holt led a team into nearby Rendlesham Forest and began recording what he was experiencing on a small tape recorder.

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There it is. Yeah, I see it too. What is it? We don't know, sir.

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Strange, small, red light. Looks to be out maybe a quarter to half mile away before they're out.

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They began seeing a series of lights flying above and then into the forest around them.

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The object comes into the forest a bit and it moves horizontally through the trees, avoiding the trees,

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obviously under some type of intelligent control.

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It appears that you may be moving a little bit this way. It's right in the house back.

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It's coming this way. It is definitely coming this way. This is weird.

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Soon the lights were right on top of them, leaving Holt and his men paralyzed with fear.

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Here he comes from the south. He's coming towards us now.

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Now we're observing what appears to be a beam coming down to the climb.

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This is unreal.

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The beam is not like an ordinary light. It doesn't radiate. It was like a laser beam. It was focused.

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It landed right 10, 15 feet away from us at our feet.

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I was literally in shock.

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In the meantime, we noticed two glowing white objects, very bright objects to the south in the sky.

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Holt claims the craft then flew north toward the base.

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We could hear the chatter on the radios that the beams went down into the weapon storage area.

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And I'm thinking, oh my god.

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Holt feared the UAP was targeting the base's secret nuclear storage bunkers.

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It wasn't that common. It wasn't the meteor. I mean, three of them moving in synchronization.

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They weren't coming down. They were moving in the sky.

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And I keep telling them where to look and they keep telling me nobody can see anything with the radar.

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I'm thinking, is this a warning? Is this a weapon? Or is this some kind of communication?

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I couldn't believe what was happening.

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What were these unknown objects? And where did they come from?

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Was it a foreign adversary or something else?

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Lou Elizondo spoke with a second witness from the Rendlesham incident, a military policeman named John Burles.

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His account raises even more questions about the capabilities of these UAPs.

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Something definitely happened to Burles. He was never the same after that.

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Among his duties, protecting the base's secret arsenal of nuclear weapons.

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To the best of your recollection, tell me what happened.

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It was a Christmas night. I came on duty at 2300.

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When I went down to the staging area, the hall was out in the forest.

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Okay. If you listen to the hall tape, you'll hear my name on it.

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What is it? We don't know, sir.

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We're in the area of the UAP program. I'm requesting you find a moment to interrogate.

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Tell them negative at this time. We'll tell them when they can come out here.

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Later that night, after Holt's encounter, another set of lights appeared.

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This time, Burles and another military policeman, Sergeant Jim Peniston, were sent into Rendlesham Forest.

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This orange light almost appeared in the distance. It started coming down.

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Are you in the forest?

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We're in the clearing area. I'm like, I'd like a closer look.

699
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,000
The sergeant that was with me, he looked at me and he says, go for it.

700
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,000
As we started moving towards it, it looked like it started moving towards us.

701
00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:00,000
As they approached the light, Burles said it suddenly flew over them.

702
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:06,000
Whatever it was came over the top of me. I phased away and was gone.

703
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:15,000
Burles says he has no memory of what happened next, but Sergeant Peniston told him he appeared to vanish into thin air.

704
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:22,000
So let me see if I've captured this correctly. Just remember coming there and then all of a sudden bam, gone.

705
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:29,000
And then all of a sudden, he tells you that you were here and you basically disappeared.

706
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:35,000
And then I was back. We start walking back and there's where you can get stranger.

707
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,000
Neither one of us remember anything till the next day.

708
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,000
There was some loss of time somewhere and...

709
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,000
Well, I mean, that's where I try to be careful with this. I don't understand.

710
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,000
People said I was abducted. I was taken. All that. Maybe it was.

711
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,000
I honestly do not know what happened. That's what I mean my whole life.

712
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:59,000
Burles says he began experiencing health problems after the incident and went to a hospital.

713
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:04,000
I went in there and when the doctor saw me, he started doing a normal checkup.

714
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,000
He put the stuff, the scope on my chest. He looked at me strange.

715
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,000
He said, what's the Air Force have to say about your heart murmur?

716
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,000
And I'm like, I'm around heart murmur. He goes, oh, yes you do.

717
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Doctors had discovered life-threatening scarring on his heart.

718
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:29,000
There are people who are reporting when they come near or they come close to or observe a phenomena that there are changes occurring.

719
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,000
Burles says his injuries were just the beginning of his problems.

720
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,000
Can I read that?

721
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:40,000
In 2012, he filed a claim to get Veterans Administration Disability Benefits,

722
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:45,000
but he was shocked to find his military file had been classified as top secret.

723
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:53,000
So I went in to see the doctor. So I sit down and she starts to ask me questions about what my claim is about.

724
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,000
And so I answer to her three questions and she says, hold on a second.

725
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,000
And I look at her and I say, what? She goes, well, there's an issue here.

726
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:06,000
And I go, what's the issue? She says, well, you weren't in the Air Force when you said this event happened.

727
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:14,000
And I go, what do you mean I wasn't in the Air Force? She says, according to our records, you didn't enter the Air Force until 1982.

728
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:21,000
We have no medical records going back before you, too. And that's when the storm walling started.

729
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:26,000
Burroughs experience is troubling, but it's just one of many.

730
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:31,000
Officially, the U.S. military only recently began tracking eyewitness sightings by U.S. soldiers.

731
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:36,000
It was a sudden about face after decades of UAP denials.

732
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:47,000
While the U.S. government is now making strides to take UAPs more seriously, that wasn't always the case.

733
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,000
Investigative journalist George Knapp says as far back as the 1950s,

734
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:58,000
the government has been discounting UAP sightings, including a mass sighting or FLAB over Washington, D.C.

735
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,000
I am here to discuss the so-called flying saucers.

736
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:09,000
There's a news conference that was recorded on film after the UFO FLAB in 1952.

737
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:14,000
Two weekends in a row. UFOs are seen on radar. They're seen visually.

738
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:23,000
We have received and analyzed between one and 2,000 reports that have come to us from all kinds of sources.

739
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:36,000
We've been able to explain them as hoaxes, as erroneously identified friendly aircraft, as meteorological or electronic phenomena, or as light aberration.

740
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:42,000
General Samford speaks to the media and says it was a weather inversion. Now, that's a lie.

741
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:52,000
We know that there have been investigators that have been on the scene of some of these instances where they've collected physical evidence and it's squirreled away.

742
00:52:52,000 --> 00:53:00,000
So why until recently has the government been denying these reports? One theory has persisted.

743
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:08,000
The Pentagon is believed to have used UAP sightings as cover for nuclear weapons research and top secret aircraft testing.

744
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:15,000
One infamous incident took place in 1980 at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico.

745
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:26,000
It was a place of secrets. It was a place of black projects. And the Air Force would rather that people not figure out what was going on.

746
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:35,000
Kirtland was one of America's most classified weapons testing facilities where early versions of stealth jets and unmanned drones began to take shape.

747
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:46,000
A lot of the military technology is at least 10 and sometimes 20 years ahead of public awareness. They have to be. That's the way you keep ahead of the enemy.

748
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:55,000
A local man noticed strange lights flying above the base. In reality, they were top secret U.S. aircraft. He started trying to figure out what they were.

749
00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:04,000
He was listening to radio transmissions from the base. Microbursts and communications having to do with defense programs.

750
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:09,000
He calls up the Air Force and he says, do you know you guys have these lights flying around the base?

751
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,000
They said, this is very interesting to us. Why don't you come down to the base and talk about it?

752
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:18,000
The Air Force Base assigned a counterintelligence operative named Richard Doty.

753
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:25,000
I began a dialogue trying to find out everything he had. We had to decide on what we were going to do then.

754
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:31,000
Were we going to allow this to happen or were we trying to convince him otherwise?

755
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:42,000
Doty says they decided to tell the man that what he was seeing was extraterrestrial and even gave him a computer loaded with what appeared to be messages from an alien race.

756
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:52,000
This computer starts fitting out the most insane stuff you can imagine. We're on a dying planet and we need your help and we want to exchange technology.

757
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:57,000
He got more and more paranoid and Doty actually encouraged this paranoia.

758
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:05,000
We planted a seed that what he was seeing and what he was hearing and what he was collecting was in fact probably maybe UFOs.

759
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:12,000
But Richard Doty's covert mission wasn't just to confuse civilians about what was happening at Kirtland.

760
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:20,000
The operation was also intended to spread disinformation to Soviet spies looking to steal America's most advanced military technology.

761
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:35,000
The Air Force put out UFO stories to see if the Russians would start seeing chum in the water and show up at US military bases or in different places where they might be trying to spy on us.

762
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:45,000
But it's a very difficult subject to get to the bottom of and have any real sense of where you are in this hall of mirrors.

763
00:55:45,000 --> 00:56:02,000
There's probably about 80 percent of false information being presented about 20 percent of factual information. Unfortunately the UFO community doesn't know which is which.

764
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:17,000
Bill Scott is a former Air Force Flight Test Engineer and editor at Aviation Week Magazine. He claims a high ranking officer at Area 51 admitted to him how the military used the media to spread disinformation about UAPs.

765
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:29,000
Some of the people that I would approach would give me clues. One of the more intriguing responses I got was, well if you really want to know what's going on, read the rags at the supermarket checkout.

766
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:47,000
Like the Enquirer and the Globe and all these things. I said you got to be kidding me. He said when you see a picture of Bill Clinton standing there in front of one of these black airplanes with his arm around the alien being, he said, forget what's in front and look what's behind.

767
00:56:47,000 --> 00:57:05,000
I said come on. So what you're really telling me is that in order to hide real, highly classified stuff is that you basically paint it with the UFO brush. And I said why would you do that? And he said to keep people like you from looking any farther.

768
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:11,000
I said, ah come on, does it really work? He said it worked for 50 years. Why would we change now?

769
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:28,000
For decades, the National Enquirer and Weekly World News were published by Generoso Pope Jr. who pushed the paper's sensational stories about UFOs and aliens. Pope's job, just before taking over, was psychological warfare officer for the CIA.

770
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:40,000
Author Mark Pilkington believes the government's history of media manipulation might extend to present day and that we shouldn't believe everything new reports say about the recent UAP sightings.

771
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:52,000
It's about perception management. The technologies exist that may not explain precisely what we're seeing but are analogous to the things that are seen.

772
00:57:52,000 --> 00:58:00,000
Pilkington believes the Nimitz and Roosevelt incidents could have been related to a top secret program known as Nemesis.

773
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:10,000
Nemesis was originally developed by the Navy and used swarms of drones that emit signals to full enemy radar.

774
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:21,000
Nemesis combines complex multi-system countermeasures that are simultaneously operating against aircraft, satellite systems, ship-based systems.

775
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:25,000
Could what these pilots saw be this advanced technology?

776
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:37,000
Certainly these would have been something that was outside the sphere of familiarity for the pilots involved and could certainly have led to confusion.

777
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:46,000
But a key finding in the recent UAP report is that the 144 sightings they studied were not U.S. technology the military is trying to hide.

778
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:57,000
Could the Nimitz incident and other UAP related incidents possibly involve some sort of super secret U.S. technology?

779
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:02,000
Is it possible? It's absolutely possible. Is it plausible? No, it's not plausible.

780
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:14,000
And the reason why I say that is because at the time I had one of the highest levels of security clearance in the U.S. government and I was briefing people who were read on to just about anything and everything in the U.S. government.

781
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:31,000
There's no reason to believe that the Air Force is today seeking to promote confusion between UAPs and classified Air Force programs or using the UAP phenomenon as a cover for Air Force programs.

782
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:45,000
In April 2019, the U.S. Navy announced it was creating new guidelines by which Navy personnel could report UAP encounters.

783
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:50,000
The Navy wanted to encourage more eyewitness reports by reducing the stigma.

784
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:54,000
It's a stigma those involved in the Nimitz encounter understood.

785
00:59:55,000 --> 01:00:03,000
I was never formally debriefed and I wasn't taken seriously for years.

786
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:11,000
For over a decade, a UAP sighting by Commander David Fraver and his wingman pilot were dismissed by the U.S. Navy.

787
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:18,000
If I had been a single-seat pilot and I had encountered it by myself, I probably wouldn't have said anything.

788
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:24,000
I wouldn't want to arrest my security clearance. I wouldn't want to arrest people thinking I was a freak or crazy.

789
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:30,000
You actually get four people that are eyewitnesses to the performance of this thing and then nothing gets done.

790
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,000
So the frustration that comes out of that is why.

791
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:41,000
It was not only ridiculed but then the intel people didn't seem to be interested in their story. It was the worst of both worlds.

792
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:49,000
Sean Cahill, a military policeman who also reported seeing the tic-tac to his superior officers, was mocked publicly for what he saw.

793
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,000
Every night we would have an operations intelligence briefing.

794
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:58,000
So I kind of smirk and I walk in because I'm like, wow, maybe we're going to hear something.

795
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,000
Maybe we're going to find out what was going on.

796
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:05,000
Now as they start the briefing, the young officer in charge gave the little nod to the person running the computer.

797
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:16,000
And as they hit the spacebar, a caricature of a flying saucer with a little green alien moves across the screen.

798
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:21,000
The room erupts in laughter and that was it.

799
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,000
Captain said, well, we had a little bit of fun. I guess you guys were chasing something around.

800
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,000
That's over now. Let's get on with the briefing.

801
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:34,000
I'm an intel guy. It's not uncommon that if you have a person in a particular position of trust and you want to keep them quiet,

802
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,000
that ridicule can be used as some sort of leverage.

803
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:45,000
While the stigma surrounding UAPs hindered U.S. investigators for decades, other countries have embraced the topic.

804
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:52,000
Italy is one of the few nations that openly investigates UAPs and has had numerous sightings over the years.

805
01:01:52,000 --> 01:02:00,000
Every government wants to keep extremely sacred any information.

806
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:07,000
Claire Brunova-Drucio is a scientist and was a commander of an elite unit of the Italian Navy.

807
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,000
For 15 years he's been investigating unidentified craft with a team of researchers.

808
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:18,000
So I know several information, but my government don't want to know.

809
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:25,000
Because if my government know, they must do something.

810
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,000
Absolutely. I would like to see what you have. That's what I'd like to see.

811
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:37,000
If I tell you something that is restricted, you must give us something of restricted.

812
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:48,000
We are not Russian. We are brothers. You have to give me something of the same weight.

813
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:55,000
During our time in the ATIP program, we were focused on only two primary objectives.

814
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:59,000
Those two objectives, what is it and how does it work?

815
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:06,000
We still don't know what they are, but we have a much better understanding now of how they work.

816
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:16,000
We assembled more than 13,000 cases during the last 70 years and we have a database.

817
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:21,000
The Italians have accumulated one of the world's largest collections of UAP data.

818
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:29,000
Unfortunately, if this is not shared with other people outside Italy, it's useless.

819
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:35,000
There's one incident in particular the officials wanted to discuss with Luella Zondo.

820
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:45,000
In 2004 Sicily, a craft appeared a few hundred meters behind the captor's tail.

821
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:58,000
It should arrive that destroyed helicopter wings. I can show you the photograph.

822
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,000
That's what I'd like to see.

823
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:08,000
This was the only helicopter in the airspace on a secret mission to actually investigate the UAP phenomena off the coast of that island.

824
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:16,000
And it gets zapped and there's several pictures from different cameras on the island of the same helicopter and a UAP following it.

825
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:21,000
We can't use missiles against this device.

826
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:29,000
So, you know, we can launch missiles or the missile will be sent back.

827
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,000
So this was deliberate. You believe that it was a deliberate?

828
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,000
Absolutely.

829
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:46,000
In 2004 a series of spontaneous fires broke out across northern Sicily, destroying homes and forcing evacuations.

830
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:59,000
The Italian military sent a helicopter to investigate.

831
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:07,000
Officials say the chopper was chased by a saucer-shaped UAP that shot a powerful electromagnetic beam at its rotor.

832
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:11,000
The helicopter was severely damaged but was able to land.

833
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,000
The incident was photographed by a local resident.

834
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,000
Locals had also reported seeing mysterious lights over the sea.

835
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:26,000
For months the military investigators were baffled, but they were able to piece together a few key details.

836
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:31,000
This signal was absolutely directional.

837
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,000
It was a beam.

838
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:39,000
We could see it on a certain frequency band.

839
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:54,000
We also discovered that when they used their energy weapons, they must go outside the stealth mode.

840
01:05:54,000 --> 01:06:05,000
We could only hit them with depleted uranium weapons.

841
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,000
And now what do you say to me?

842
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:15,000
Militaries around the world have electromagnetic pulse weapons that produce quick bursts of energy that can destroy electrical systems.

843
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:20,000
But the Italians claim the UAP fired a pulse strong enough to destroy a helicopter rotor.

844
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,000
No known military has that capability.

845
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:29,000
They were very pointed in matter of fact that these things had been kind of plaguing them for some time.

846
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:38,000
One individual in particular provided some very, very detailed information to include some analysis on frequency.

847
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:44,000
I hate to say it, but they may have more information than we do even in the U.S. potentially.

848
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:59,000
In Russia and now even in China there is the tendency to organize at a government level in order to study such phenomena and to find results from these studies.

849
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,000
You are aware of this?

850
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,000
I am.

851
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,000
Okay.

852
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:06,000
I think we're all in the same boat.

853
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:15,000
So my hope is with the help of you all and everybody else we can move this topic forward.

854
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,000
This affects humanity. This doesn't affect just one country.

855
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:25,000
In fact, more evidence suggests that UAPs are a truly global phenomenon.

856
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:35,000
For decades there have been UAP sightings in the skies over dozens of countries.

857
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,000
Are eye witnesses around the globe seeing the same UAPs?

858
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,000
It's something various nations are investigating closely.

859
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:51,000
South America is known for being a UAP hotspot home to thousands of unexplained sightings.

860
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:55,000
Argentina, Chile and Peru are at the center of the storm.

861
01:07:55,000 --> 01:08:00,000
In Chile, which is thought to have the most UAP sightings of any country in the world,

862
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:04,000
a Navy helicopter recorded this UAP in 2014.

863
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:09,000
It's tic-tac-like shape similar to objects reported by U.S. Navy pilots.

864
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:13,000
Are they seeing the same thing in the skies that we are?

865
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:19,000
And if so, that's yet another piece of the puzzle that this is truly a global phenomena.

866
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:23,000
Another highly compelling sighting took place in Lima, Peru.

867
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:32,000
So General Spicer, have you ever witnessed anything that left you scratching your head

868
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,000
wondering what the hell was that?

869
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:55,000
On April 11th, 1980, at La Jolla Air Force Base in southern Peru,

870
01:08:55,000 --> 01:09:00,000
Spicer and a young lieutenant named Oscar Santa Maria were lined up for inspection

871
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,000
when a strange report came in from the control tower.

872
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:23,000
A large glowing object had been observed hovering outside the base's restricted airspace

873
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,000
and didn't respond to radio commands to identify itself.

874
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:37,000
You're talking about almost 2,000 people in formation standing on an airfield

875
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:43,000
watching as Oscar Santa Maria was scramble to go intercept this thing.

876
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:48,000
Santa Maria took off in the Sukhoi SU-22,

877
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:53,000
part of a fleet of advanced fighters Peru had recently purchased from the Soviet Union.

878
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:58,000
A Sukhoi-22 supersonic swing-wing aircraft variable geometry wing,

879
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,000
one of the fastest aircraft at the time on the planet.

880
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:05,000
As Santa Maria's Soviet mate Jett screamed over the base,

881
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,000
he maneuvered to get a visual on the strange object.

882
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:32,000
It was a paleo and all that was holding a wide base of metal.

883
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:50,000
Back at base, the giant glowing object was considered a threat that needed to be taken out.

884
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,000
Oscar Santa Maria was given the order,

885
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,000
if it isn't ours, shoot it down.

886
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,000
I had to be in a way to not get too close.

887
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:07,000
I took fire position and when I was about to get to the firing range,

888
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:11,000
the object made a sudden rise that left me blank.

889
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:16,000
Santa Maria says the object accelerated to more than 1200 miles per hour

890
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,000
and suddenly stopped in midair.

891
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,000
And every time he tries to get close to the object, what happens?

892
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,000
The object moves away, he can't get close.

893
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:29,000
This object exceeded the characteristics of the Sukhoi-22.

894
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,000
It was much more powerful.

895
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,000
I focused it well and shot a gun at 64 bullets,

896
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,000
waiting for the balloon to explode.

897
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,000
Santa Maria says he fired round after round,

898
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:47,000
but the object appeared to absorb the fire with no visible damage.

899
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:52,000
It didn't explode and it started to accelerate as fast as possible.

900
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:57,000
No obvious signs of propulsion, no engine, no exhaust,

901
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:02,000
no jet plume or anything else that you would normally associate with the traditional aircraft.

902
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:07,000
The smooth orb-like object which outmaneuvered Santa Maria's fighter jet

903
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:13,000
displayed two of the five observables identified by Elizondo as being common to UAPs.

904
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:18,000
Instantaneous acceleration, the ability to immediately achieve high speeds,

905
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:24,000
and anti-gravity, the ability to fly without apparent propulsion or lift.

906
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:30,000
A lot of what they're telling me does reaffirm information we've already had,

907
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,000
particularly on the five observables, continue to be reinforced.

908
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:39,000
After he returned to base, Santa Maria created this sketch

909
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,000
which shows an object that by all known laws of physics

910
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,000
should not be able to fly or absorb gunfire.

911
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:52,000
What I would like to see is to be more interested in knowing

912
01:12:52,000 --> 01:13:00,000
how it works, where it comes from, and how the world will lose the opportunity to know

913
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,000
whether they're friends or enemies.

914
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:09,000
For those that say these objects can likely be explained by top secret military projects,

915
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:13,000
maybe Chinese or Russian, sightings in Latin America offer a counterpoint.

916
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:18,000
In Patagonia, people have been reporting similar lights in the sky for centuries,

917
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:22,000
predating the discovery of flight and modern warplanes.

918
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:26,000
Local residents say they typically appear as fiery orbs.

919
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:40,000
We see the lights that are always seen in the field,

920
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,000
and those lights float over the ground, and that's what the Antimalans are.

921
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,000
They're spirits that are part of our culture.

922
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:53,000
Andrea Morales says new lights have appeared in the skies further down the road.

923
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,000
What did you think when you saw this light?

924
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,000
We thought it was a car.

925
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:03,000
It was at the height of the road that went there.

926
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:08,000
As it started to rise, we were shocked because we didn't know what it was.

927
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:13,000
The lights that were turning were focusing on the top,

928
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:16,000
and as they started to descend, they were placed above the place.

929
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,000
It's something supernatural.

930
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:25,000
Other unexplained lights and fiery orbs have been reported across Latin America,

931
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,000
in Chile and Argentina.

932
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,000
One sighting might be an anomaly, two a coincidence,

933
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:35,000
but multiple sightings across several countries in hundreds of years

934
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,000
is a pattern that is difficult to ignore.

935
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:43,000
There have been enough extraordinary sightings that were corroborated by many witnesses

936
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:47,000
and fighter aircraft that there is a category there, I would say,

937
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:53,000
that seems to correspond to what our Navy has revealed and spoken about.

938
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:58,000
Facing a global phenomena with national security implications for multiple countries,

939
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,000
the question becomes, what are UAPs?

940
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:05,000
Are they from a country here on Earth that made leaps forward,

941
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,000
or something interstellar?

942
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:19,000
The U.S. government's new UAP task force reports directly to the Senate Committee on Intelligence,

943
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:23,000
and has confirmed credible sightings by U.S. military personnel,

944
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:29,000
at least 120 instances of unidentified aerial phenomena.

945
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,000
They're writing policy that rather than keeping people quiet,

946
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,000
we'll encourage people to come forward.

947
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,000
Keep in mind that the topic of UAPs just a year and a half ago,

948
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,000
people were snickering and laughing, right?

949
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:46,000
That was relegated to be Hollywood movies and cheap TV shows,

950
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,000
and now people are having a real conversation.

951
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:56,000
Lou Elizondo, Chris Mellon and others have come forward to try and get the Pentagon leadership to do more about this,

952
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,000
to apply real resources to try and figure out,

953
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,000
is it real, is it an adversary, is it something else?

954
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:07,000
One of the sightings the government reexamined was the series of encounters

955
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:12,000
former U.S. Navy pilot Ryan Graves and others in his flight group had in 2015,

956
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,000
off the southeastern United States.

957
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,000
The source of these sightings is still unknown.

958
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:25,000
Task Force confirms it's not the work of a top-secret U.S. military aviation program.

959
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:31,000
So could the Russian or Chinese military be deploying technology that outpaces our own,

960
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,000
something that defies the laws of physics?

961
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:38,000
If it's some red threat, that'd be enormous.

962
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:47,000
There is definitely this fear that either an adversary or someone else has developed a technology,

963
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:55,000
and every defense system we have developed over decades to protect our forces is irrelevant,

964
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,000
and that's a scary thought if you're in the military.

965
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:08,000
How do you know that a foreign adversary hasn't leapfrogged us in technology by a generation?

966
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,000
How do you know we're not just seeing the new jet of the future?

967
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,000
If anyone might know the answer, it's Steve Justice.

968
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,000
In his three decades at Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works,

969
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:22,000
he helped design some of America's most advanced attack aircraft.

970
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:32,000
A foreign adversary can't just send in a typical reconnaissance aircraft,

971
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,000
because we won't let him into our area.

972
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,000
They would have to send in something that's super, super low observable,

973
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,000
something that is super sophisticated and fast,

974
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:44,000
and get in, look at what it is we're doing, and then get back out, right?

975
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,000
I mean, we want that capability, so why wouldn't a foreign adversary?

976
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:53,000
That's why I continue to doggedly pursue these what-is scenarios.

977
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:57,000
My greatest fear is that an adversary did figure it out,

978
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,000
and we are just way, way, way, way, way behind.

979
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:06,000
Neither Lou Elizondo nor Steve Justice believe it's an enemy we know.

980
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,000
I want to be careful we're not belligerent, you know, saying,

981
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,000
the Russians are Chinese, that they're the big bad enemy,

982
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,000
because when it comes to this phenomena, they're really not.

983
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:17,000
They're in the same boat we're in.

984
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,000
If it's something totally outside of that,

985
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,000
then, you know, obviously the implications for that are not much as well.

986
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,000
When Lou Elizondo was at ATIP, they looked into the possibility

987
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:31,000
of an explanation beyond the realm of all known science.

988
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:36,000
These 37 studies were eventually declassified and made public.

989
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:41,000
Now that the list of studies has been released by the U.S. government,

990
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,000
we really weren't looking at aircraft 40 years in the future.

991
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,000
We were looking at a paradigm-changing technology

992
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,000
to try to help explain the phenomenon.

993
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,000
Correct.

994
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:54,000
The biggest obstacle these things have to overcome is a lot of these

995
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,000
were typically classified as pseudoscience.

996
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,000
Right?

997
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,000
The studies explored complex theoretical topics like invisibility,

998
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:06,000
wormholes, and anti-gravity, subjects many believe to be science fiction.

999
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,000
This technology is, for all intents and purposes, magic.

1000
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,000
So, you know, we would like to get it.

1001
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,000
Whoever cracks the code and figures this stuff out first

1002
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,000
would have a tremendous advantage over our other adversaries.

1003
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:25,000
What will your feelings be if it turns out that it is not

1004
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:31,000
a foreign technology capability and is not a U.S. capability?

1005
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,000
Then what?

1006
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,000
Then it's something else.

1007
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,000
Because it's hard to say it's not there.

1008
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,000
The studies examined cutting-edge theories,

1009
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:47,000
but they did not address the question that has shadowed UAP sightings for decades.

1010
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:52,000
A possibility that intelligent life from another solar system has arrived on Earth.

1011
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:56,000
The question has been debated for decades with no hard proof.

1012
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,000
The question of whether or not there's extraterrestrial life

1013
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,000
is certainly a scientific question that deserves investigation.

1014
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:10,000
Matthew Kleban is a leading theoretical physicist at New York University.

1015
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:14,000
We now know that our own galaxy contains of order 100 billion stars,

1016
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,000
and there are of order 10 or 100 billion other galaxies

1017
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,000
that we can observe within the observable part of our universe.

1018
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:24,000
So you multiply those two numbers together and it's a staggering, huge figure.

1019
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,000
With the help of deep space telescopes,

1020
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:32,000
astrophysicists estimate that not only do billions of solar systems

1021
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,000
exist in our observable universe,

1022
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:38,000
up to one in four contain a planet that could sustain life.

1023
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:43,000
It would be naive to think that, you know, we could be the only one

1024
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,000
out there and I get that.

1025
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,000
What I'm always fearful of is in people focusing in on aliens.

1026
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:56,000
Now you start going down the roads of, you know, is it from another planet?

1027
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,000
Is it interdimensional?

1028
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,000
You know, is it spiritual?

1029
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:02,000
What is those things?

1030
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:12,000
And it opens up so many cans of worms that I just don't allow myself to go down that path.

1031
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,000
I mean, I think it's disingenuous to say it's not an option.

1032
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:21,000
It's so unknown that we really have no idea what we're dealing with.

1033
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,000
I think the public is closer to understanding the UFO mystery

1034
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,000
than at any time in my lifetime.

1035
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,000
It's astonishing.

1036
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,000
And yeah, it's a little bit scary.

1037
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:34,000
How does the story end?

1038
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,000
I have no idea who it was or what it was.

1039
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,000
Maybe it's Elon Musk or somebody out there coming up with some, you know,

1040
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:44,000
disruptive technology that's going to change our lives like an iPhone.

1041
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,000
You know, if you'd shown me an iPhone when I was in high school,

1042
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,000
I would have thought it was voodoo magic.

1043
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,000
I hope it ends peacefully.

1044
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:02,000
You have to ask yourself, is it ET or is it Independence Day?

1045
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,000
You know, what's the intent?

1046
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,000
And right now, we don't know.